Alex travels up to Trout Lake, Washington to talk with ufologist James Gilliland about the phenomena on July 6th, 2008. James claims that after a near death experience he entered into what he calls intra-dimensional intelligence and began communication with beings of a higher nature. It is in this region of Washington where UFOs are seen on a regular basis around Mt. Adams. In this interview he shares his thoughts as well as some of his predictions. His Site: www.eceti.org